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		<title>D20 + D10 Blurb</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Payne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to KJDavies for the link in his weekly roundup. Specifically, he linked to my mechanic for using roll under d20 + d10 for a skill check. Here is a graph for your consideration: I graphed the three mechanics mentioned in the post. Basically it shows that results above 21 begin to show diminishing returns. [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style addthis_32x32_style" addthis:url='http://www.sycarion.com/d20-d10-blurb/' addthis:title='D20 + D10 Blurb' ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like"></a><a class="addthis_button_email"></a><a class="addthis_button_twitter"></a><a class="addthis_button_printfriendly"></a><a class="addthis_button_google_plusone"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to <a href="http://www.kjd-imc.org/2011/09/12/links-of-the-week-september-12-2011/">KJDavies for the link in his weekly roundup</a>. Specifically, he linked to my mechanic for using roll under d20 + d10 for a skill check.</p>
<p>Here is a <a href="http://anydice.com/program/a7e">graph for your consideration</a>:</p>
<p>I graphed the three mechanics mentioned in the post. Basically it shows that results above 21 begin to show diminishing returns. In other words, once a character achieves a score of 25, the benefit of pushing on to 30 is not so large an advantage.</p>
<p>One thing I haven&#8217;t done yet is to look at this mechanic&#8217;s effect on combat. Maybe it is tradition for me that I don&#8217;t want to go into that direction. I&#8217;d like to say something at the beginning of Andras to the effect of this:</p>
<p>d4, d6, d8 and d10 are used for damage<br />
d12 is used for initiative and surprise<br />
d20 is used for combat<br />
d20+d10 are used for non-weapon proficiency or special abilities. (Use a d30 if you prefer linear probabilities.)</p>
<p>Believe me when I tell you that if I could incorporate a <a href="http://www.eaieducation.com/Product/530754/24-Sided_Dice_-_Set_of_5.aspx">d24</a>, I would. <img src='http://www.sycarion.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Next up, a crystal magic wielding rival for the Fire Primordials on their own plane and a look at the Water Primordials.</p>
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		<title>Odd Mechanic</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 11:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Payne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was working on a random way to give my kids some very simple addition subtraction problems. I will admit that I am thinking a bit far in the future as we really haven&#8217;t covered subtraction yet. That being said, I am a fan of the d4-ized d6 featured at the Dice Creator store. I [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style addthis_32x32_style" addthis:url='http://www.sycarion.com/odd-mechanic/' addthis:title='Odd Mechanic' ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like"></a><a class="addthis_button_email"></a><a class="addthis_button_twitter"></a><a class="addthis_button_printfriendly"></a><a class="addthis_button_google_plusone"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was working on a random way to give my kids some very simple addition subtraction problems. I will admit that I am thinking a bit far in the future as we really haven&#8217;t covered subtraction yet.</p>
<p>That being said, I am a fan of the <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/D6-D4ized-/180659325030?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_186&amp;hash=item2a10228866">d4-ized d6 featured at the Dice Creator store</a>. I am saving up for one of these. I love the possibilities that come the fact that it has more than one number on its face.</p>
<p>When I first saw it, I realized that it could make a great randomizer simply by concatenating the numbers rolled. Last night, though, I had some crazy idea to combine the <strong>d4ized-d6</strong> with a <strong>Fudge </strong>die and an <strong>LCR </strong>die. (It kept me awake for half the night.) The <strong>Fudge </strong>die would tell you to subtract, concatenate, or add. The <strong>LCR </strong>die would tell you what other number on the face to compute with. For example, if you rolled a 6 (meaning that the 6 is on the bottom), the Center number would be the upside-down 1 above the 6. The Left and Right numbers would vary, but let&#8217;s say for the sake of argument that the Left number is a 2 and the Right number is a 5. <em>Left+Add</em> would produce 8. <em>Right+Add</em> would produce 11. <em>Center+Add</em> makes 7.<em> Left+Subtract</em> gives you 4, <em>Center+Subtract</em> gives you 5, <em>Right+Subtract</em> produces 1. <em>Left+Concatenate</em> makes 62. <em>Center+Concatenate</em> makes 61 and <em>Right+Concatenate</em> makes 65.</p>
<p>You get the idea.</p>
<p>Yes, you can get negative numbers. The range produced goes from -5 to 65. Believe it or not, the median roll is a 7. In a roll-under system, the chances of rolling a 7 or less are about 55%.</p>
<p>Here is the<a href="https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsfaGW02LDlSdDRFektrWlJjSE1tdVItQXRUcG50Tnc&amp;hl=en_US&amp;authkey=COf-mtgM#gid=0"> spreadsheet with my analysis</a>.</p>
<p>If, by some odd stretch, someone decided to use this mechanic in a roll-under system. It does allow for a natural &#8220;diminishing returns&#8221; feature.</p>
<p>Say for example that a system has a skill system rated by points. A Skill score of zero still gives you a 16% chance of success. Once you get up to a 7, you have a better than 50-50 chance of success. You&#8217;re above a seventy precent chance of success at 15. After that, though, it&#8217;s slow going to get a lot of progress. You break an 80% chance of success at a score of 34. To get above a 90% chance happens at a skill score of 52.</p>
<p>Critical successes? Roll a -4 or -5. Critical Failure? 61 or better.</p>
<p>Would this work in an RPG? Maybe not. It requires some getting used to. I think it might be better for a sports simulation sim, like American Footbal, for example. These kind of fiddly rolls happened in Paydirt. The results can emulate all kinds of tables, like<a href="http://plaay.com/secondseason.html"> Second Season Football</a>. (I own both of these, by the way.)</p>
<p>Anyway, there&#8217;s my odd mechanic idea that kept me awake last night. Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>Use of Dice in my OSR-ish project</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 16:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Payne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dice Players use dice are used for three primary purposes: to determine damage, to determine success at a task, or for combat resolution. d4 &#8211; Used to determine damage for smaller weapons like daggers, caltrops, brass knuckles, etc. d6 &#8211; Used to determine damage for simple weapons, arrows, bolts and other hazards (like falling) d8 [...]<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style addthis_32x32_style" addthis:url='http://www.sycarion.com/use-of-dice-in-my-osr-ish-project/' addthis:title='Use of Dice in my OSR-ish project' ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like"></a><a class="addthis_button_email"></a><a class="addthis_button_twitter"></a><a class="addthis_button_printfriendly"></a><a class="addthis_button_google_plusone"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Dice</h2>
<p>Players use dice are used for three primary purposes: to determine damage, to determine success at a task, or for combat resolution.</p>
<p>d4 &#8211; Used to determine damage for smaller weapons like daggers, caltrops, brass knuckles, etc.</p>
<p>d6 &#8211; Used to determine damage for simple weapons, arrows, bolts and other hazards (like falling)</p>
<p>d8 &#8211; Used to determine damage for crafted weapons like swords. It is also used to determine success for tasks not covered in the rules.</p>
<p>d10 &#8211; Used to determine damage for large crafted weapons like halberds and two-handed swords.</p>
<p>d% &#8211; This refers to using two 10-sided die to determine success with certain tasks, usually special abilities such as Pick Locks or Catch Object. One die is treated as a tens-digit, the other as a ones digit. Results range from 01 &#8211; 99.</p>
<p>d12 &#8211; Used to determine damage for unusual monster attacks and for psionic combat.</p>
<p>dB% &#8211; This refers to using two 12-sided die to determine success with certain tasks for higher-level players for advanced abilities. The result of one die is multiplied by 10 and added to the other die. Results range from 11 &#8211; 132.</p>
<p>d20 &#8211; This die is used specifically for melee, missile, projectile and magic attacks.</p>
<p>The GM uses these die for mostly the same uses. At his or her discretion, other die may also be used. These other die are predominantly used for random generation purposes, for example, generating a random monster, etc. These include, but are not limited to:</p>
<p>d66 &#8211; Using two six-sided dice, multiply the result of one die by 10 and add the result of the other die.</p>
<p>Others include d3, d14, d16, d24, d30 and d100.</p>
<h3>Notes</h3>
<p>dB% is something I used to do for Thieves with high ability scores or for thieves at high levels. I added a bunch of abilities available only at level 12 and above like ventriloquism, throw voice, climb sheer surfaces, etc. I think Mr. Gygax himself suggested an arrangement like this at some point, but I don&#8217;t recall seeing anything more concrete.</p>
<p>Since special abilities are open to any class generated, I plan on using dB% to represent characters that have high ability to perform one of these tasks &#8211; a 16 or above. Since the core mechanic of the system will consistently be a roll-over mechanism, some of the scores will be listed as &gt;100.</p>
<p>Next post, I should include the Skill Tables.</p>
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		<title>I am a d10</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>John Payne</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just like everyone else lately, I had to take the test to see what I was. I didn&#8217;t expect to be loony (d100), so I guess this result is pretty accurate. Maybe it&#8217;s the EABA-build-a-better-gizmo in me. Take the quiz at dicepool.com<div class="addthis_toolbox addthis_default_style addthis_32x32_style" addthis:url='http://www.sycarion.com/i-am-a-d10/' addthis:title='I am a d10' ><a class="addthis_button_facebook_like"></a><a class="addthis_button_email"></a><a class="addthis_button_twitter"></a><a class="addthis_button_printfriendly"></a><a class="addthis_button_google_plusone"></a></div>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like everyone else lately, I had to take the test to see what I was. I didn&#8217;t expect to be loony (d100), so I guess this result is pretty accurate.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s the EABA-build-a-better-gizmo in me.</p>
<p><a href="http://dicepool.com/quiz/info_8.html"><img src="http://dicepool.com/images/quiz/nerdy.gif" alt="I am a d10" width="300px" height="300px" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://dicepool.com/quiz/info_8.html">Take the quiz at dicepool.com</a></p>
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